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Iglooo · 08-16-2011 at 10:53 am

How common are they? If you have underage college students, do they have a fake ID?

Marian · 08-16-2011 at 11:19 am

Very common. Also illegal. Not a good idea.

Iglooo · 08-16-2011 at 11:24 am

I was talking to a friend whose kid is in college. I was slightly shocked at the openness of it.

olderwisermom · 08-16-2011 at 11:32 am

I have a friend whose son, as a HS senior, visited his cousin at the college that he planned to attend. Cousin had a fake ID ready for him when he arrived for the weekend.

It's very, very common.

Hunt · 08-16-2011 at 11:39 am

Previous lengthy thread on this:
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/989552-fake-ids.html?highlight=fake+i

charlieschm · 08-16-2011 at 11:39 am

Some places are using electronic card readers that can instantly spot fakes - even if your ID says it is from Alaska.

There are some places that are happy to look the other way and accept any form of ID. Other places are very strict. When I was young, I found that the places that were the least strict were places I really didn't want to go into.

I've also heard of bouncers holding a fake ID hostage until you pay them $50. If you complain, they say they will call the cops.

Pizzagirl · 08-16-2011 at 11:39 am

I've heard that it's worse to use someone else's ID (that is, pretend you are John Smith who really is 21, and use his ID) than to have a fake ID that is really fake (that is, make up an imaginary Bill Jones and use that ID). Any lawyers want to weigh in?

dadx · 08-16-2011 at 11:41 am

Apparently, if you're caught with one, you are exposed to a forgery charge, which is a felony in many states. I'm not sure if the practice is to go easy on the kids with fake ids, but I have seen write-ups about it where the kids are charged with it.

Hunt · 08-16-2011 at 11:50 am

I did some research on this in the previous thread, and unless things have changed, just having a fake ID or using it to get into a bar is not going to be a felony. It can be a felony if you use it for other purposes, like buying a gun. And I have never read any news account of any college student being convicted of a felony for using a fake ID to buy booze.

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But this doesn't mean that the consequences are negligible. It can be bad for your future to be convicted of a misdemeanor or "disorderly conduct" as well. It can be costly if a bouncer just takes that nice ID you just paid $600 to get. It could be very inconvenient to lose your real driver's license. So at the very least, you should find out what really happens in any place you think you might use a fake ID. Just because nobody cares in your hometown doesn't mean that nobody will care in your college town, or your friend's college town.

pisces8519 · 08-16-2011 at 12:09 pm

my roommate had a fake ID. it was some else's old ID. They'd scan her ID under one of those things to make sure it was real, but they never questioned that it was her or looked too closely at the picture.

oldfort

Pizzagirl - it's the other way around. It's worse to use a fake ID, since Sep '11. By using someone else's ID could just be a mistake or holding it for someone (left it on your coffee table). D1 never had a fake ID and I wouldn't advise any college kids to have one.

Iglooo · 08-16-2011 at 12:33 pm

My friend's kid was using it in NYC. They are more likely tolerant?

blueiguana · 08-16-2011 at 12:39 pm

oldfort is correct. As far as fake IDs go simply using your roommates older sister's is a far lesser offense. Alter an ID or use false information to get an ID that contains incorrect information and you are dealing with the Patriot Act. It doesn't matter if you agree with it, it is a matter that your kids need to know the difference.

oldfort · 08-16-2011 at 12:41 pm

NYC - they are more tolerant if one spends enough money or if you are a regular. At small college towns, like Ithaca, sometimes the local police will crack down harder. We have been to Ithaca when it was no big deal to give D1 a glass of wine at dinner, and there were times when they wanted to do a full check, even with us there.

Hunt · 08-16-2011 at 12:49 pm

Here are a couple of recent articles about this:
Police Seize Thousands Of Fake IDs In Arizona - Campus Chatter
Sophisticated phony IDs from foreign websites become prevalent - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Crackdown on boozing youths - Local - Lynn News

It still appears that in many places, the primary consequence for using a fake ID to buy alcohol or to get into a bar is losing the (often expensive) fake ID. But as noted above, the consequences can be greater, and they may increase in the future.

ellemenope · 08-16-2011 at 4:06 pm

We had a thread not that long ago about a kid who had his room searched (roomie was smoking pot) and a fake ID was found. If I remember, the issue was handled in house/college, but there was a significant fine that had to be paid.

I would advise against having a fake ID. If you need a fake ID to get into someplace, you don't belong there...

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